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I think it was more of a drive-by. Belledame of Fetch Me My Axe linked to a trans-friendly feminism proposal on another blog last week, and just in the past couple days, a transphobic feminist dropped in to put trannies back in our place.

In response to Kim’s proposal:

For 30+ years, I’ve heard men saying that women are refusing to take care of them, accept their excuses, let them in wherever they want to go hurts the men. So, when you use the word “hurt”, I want a definition.

Hurt like sexist laws shorten the lifespans of women? Or hurt like my feelings of abandonment come up?

It is possible to COMPLETELY support the human rights of transfolk and choose to not include them in your own particular self-definition. And if your organization/gathering is based on your own particular self-definition, one you’ve arrived at despite being the member of a group targeted for serious oppression for millenia, then your decision has a right to stand on its own. It’s about self-definition and empowerment for groups who are not running the show.

Some of us NEED space where our own self-definition (as members of a group targeted for hostility and projection of others definition of us) is dominant. The fact that this is perceived as a threat, as “painful”, as not “nurturing” enough simply REEKS of how women are supposed to sacrifice self for the needs of others.

We’re not in the way of your liberation or self-definition. We just want some room to create our own spaces sometimes. We really don’t believe you’re exactly the same as us, and honestly, neither do you — you make a giant production of how special you are. You play the victim card every chance you get. Some of you claim you are MORE oppressed than other women.

But we DO get to make up our own minds, and our own definitions of who we are. I categorically reject the accusation that this action by a target group is “hurtful”.

Belledame answered this person with another post.

I also like her assumption that only trans feelings are hurt when we’re not accepted. I mean, I only like it as far as I like any easily refuted argument. Less work for me. Mainly, though, I just marvel at the sheer gall of trying to put trans people in our place. It’s almost like trans hatred is socially acceptable, or something.

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